tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post5311039757330293506..comments2024-03-27T13:16:32.943-05:00Comments on Western Fictioneers: Who was that Masked Man?Western Fictioneershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01683314579075461026noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-46542746042273533912013-07-09T13:19:59.191-05:002013-07-09T13:19:59.191-05:00No apology from me. Couldn't force the venerab...No apology from me. Couldn't force the venerable Bass Reeves into anything, even if that was my intent. Certainly don't have any appetite for the argument. It's just a blog post, not an academic exercise.Phil Trumanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05388294067961766208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-91296138243727974612013-07-09T12:24:20.204-05:002013-07-09T12:24:20.204-05:00I've been seeing this pop up around Facebook a...I've been seeing this pop up around Facebook and on True West (and even on a UK website)and have discussed it a bit there, but I don't see the connection. <br /><br />Fran Striker, who did the lion's share of creating the Lone Ranger, was a frat boy from Buffalo, NY who, in his Canadian Mountie series, didn't know the difference between a Malamute and a Husky and probably never went west of the Mississippi or south of the Mason-Dixon. George Trendle was from Detroit yes, but he was a contract negotiations lawyer. I don't think he would have much contact with prisoners. I suppose it's possible that he might have heard of Reeves third hand from fellow lawyers, but tenuous is definitely the word. There are very few similarities between the fictional character and Marshal Reeves, and as is stated in the article above, <br /><br />"Black people in post-Civil War America were largely invisible. That is, no matter their station, no matter their accomplishments, they were ignored by the predominantly white population."<br /><br />I just really doubt his story would've been known to a pair of white guys like Trendle or Striker. It's more likely that, as the Wikipedia article on Striker and Trindle's Yukon adventure series Challenge Of The Yukon states -<br /><br />"Shortly before the two Trendle series aired (Lone Ranger and Challenge of the Yukon), popular author Zane Grey had a book in circulation (Lone Star Ranger) about a Texas Ranger like the Lone Ranger and a comic book series in circulation (King of the Royal Mounted) about the adventures of Sgt. King, a Royal Canadian Mounted Policeman like Sgt. Preston. It could be that Trendle borrowed both ideas from Grey's work and wanted to retain the name "King" as a tribute to Grey, who died after a long illness one year following the first airing of Challenge of the Yukon."<br /><br />Reeves was an amazing personality with a storied career, and I'm not trying to belittle that at all. He does deserve wider recognition and to be idolized as the real-life hero that he was. But this spate of comparing him to the Lone Ranger feels forced and a bit opportunistic with the movie out and all. I guess whatever brings him that attention is worth it, but it just doesn't ring true for me. Of course, if concrete truth could be put forward, I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. But this feels like it's being insinuated and passed off as such, and that doesn't sit well with me.<br /><br />I don't think Bass Reeves should be forced to ride the coattails of a fictional, fantasy creation. His own considerable merits are more than enough.caledrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05815980062636616579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-88320906862924943882013-07-06T16:42:17.852-05:002013-07-06T16:42:17.852-05:00Nice write up Western Fictioneers and Phil Truman....Nice write up Western Fictioneers and Phil Truman. Stay tune for the epic feature of: “Bass Reeves” US Deputy Marshal. In the mean time; keep telling that history:<br /><br />Read the novel, Rescue at Pine Ridge, where Buffalo Bill Cody meets a Buffalo Soldier, the greatest fictionalized 'historical novel’ ever written. This is the greatest story of Black Military History...5 stars Amazon internationally, and Barnes & Noble, the first generation of Buffalo Soldiers. The website is; http://www.rescueatpineridge.com Youtube commercials are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEgEqgNi2Is&feature=watch_response and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD66NUKmZPs<br /><br />Rescue at Pine Ridge is the epic story of the 9th Cavalry from its Congressional conception in 1866, to the rescue of the famed 7th Cavalry by the 9th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers, 1890. The 7th Cavalry was entrapped again, after the Little Big Horn Massacre, fourteen years later, the day after the Wounded Knee Massacre. If it wasn't for the 9th Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers, there would of been a second massacre of the 7th Cavalry. This story is about, brutality, compassion, bravery, gallantry, reprisal, heroism, valor and redemption.<br /><br />I know you’ll enjoy the novel. I wrote the story that embodies the Native Americans, Outlaws and African-American/Black soldiers, Buffalo Soldiers, from the east to the west, from the south to the north, in the days of the Native American Wars with the approaching United States of America.<br /><br />The novel was taken from my mini-series movie with the same title, “RaPR” to keep the story alive. The movie so far has the interest of major actors in which we are in talks with, in starring in this epic American story.<br /><br />When you get a chance, also please visit our Alpha Wolf Production website at; http://www.alphawolfprods.com and see our other productions, like Stagecoach Mary, the first Black Woman to deliver mail for the United States Postal System in Montana, in the 1890's, “spread the word”.<br /><br />Peace.Erich Hickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365350370442736633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-8442937057436227672013-07-06T15:58:27.413-05:002013-07-06T15:58:27.413-05:00Fascinating post, Phil. I am always interested in ...Fascinating post, Phil. I am always interested in anything to do with The Lone Ranger. I did not know about this, so thank you for this illuminating article.<br /><br />KeithKeith Souterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15206349930107528691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-31434774957437285612013-07-06T10:09:32.176-05:002013-07-06T10:09:32.176-05:00I have written two books about this amazing man...I have written two books about this amazing man's life. YOUNG BASS REEVES, which covers his life from age 12 to his entry into the Marshals service. BASS REEVES LAWMAN, which covers his times of great pursuit and arrest as the most feared lawman of his times. I am nearly finished with BASS REEVES JUSTICE, which will cover his adventures up until his death at Muskogee Oklahoma. They cover in detail the many adventures and close calls, as well as his association with Judge Parker, Pistol Pete, Bell Staff, Tom Story gang, Sam Sixkiller and many more. I feel that my description of the Battle of Pea Pea Ridge is the most complete ever written. The books are available on Kindle and Amazon.<br />Fred StaffAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-45720988157830212612013-07-06T09:29:23.670-05:002013-07-06T09:29:23.670-05:00Very interesting! Had no idea about this Western i...Very interesting! Had no idea about this Western icon. Thanks for enlightening me.Dee Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05075414876444998775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-81743895172397334322013-07-05T22:25:47.998-05:002013-07-05T22:25:47.998-05:00What a great blog post! I had NOT heard this befor...What a great blog post! I had NOT heard this before, so I hope one day the real story comes to film. Would be great to see that as a serious western. Thanks, Phil!Meghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10734148270217773194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-23452534732487078642013-07-05T22:25:01.477-05:002013-07-05T22:25:01.477-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Meghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10734148270217773194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-22435001616208057222013-07-05T20:12:39.123-05:002013-07-05T20:12:39.123-05:00I always found anything I could read about Reeves ...I always found anything I could read about Reeves fascinating. He first came across my radar about ten years ago. Your post and comparisons give a person much to think about. We may never know where our fictional legends come from, but trying to find out is where the fun begins. DorisRenaissance Womenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09045401344374224512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-53807934829313685032013-07-05T14:55:29.438-05:002013-07-05T14:55:29.438-05:00Phil, I had heard of this before, but didn't k...Phil, I had heard of this before, but didn't know the connections as to why it might be possible that Bass Reeves was the model for The Lone Ranger. Very interesting post! Thanks!<br />CherylCheryl Piersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18116526340220274282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-61904605940086371212013-07-05T14:53:20.359-05:002013-07-05T14:53:20.359-05:00Bass Reeves was a very interesting person. Thanks...Bass Reeves was a very interesting person. Thanks for a great post Phil.Livia J Washburnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05958199886826207363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-70946425640607149762013-07-05T11:18:24.211-05:002013-07-05T11:18:24.211-05:00Ken - Thanks for the comments. Look forward to rea...Ken - Thanks for the comments. Look forward to reading both your novels as Bass Reeves is my current fascination.<br /> <br />Tom - Thanks. Art Burton is THE definitive authority on Bass Reeves. His book BLACK GUN, SILVER STAR has been my main resource, not only for this post, but other projects on Reeves.Phil Trumanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05388294067961766208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-22436873038662252522013-07-05T09:56:31.561-05:002013-07-05T09:56:31.561-05:00Great series of comparisons between Bass Reeves an...Great series of comparisons between Bass Reeves and TLR. <br /><br />Historian Art Burton once noted that, "If Reeves were fictional, he would be a combination of Sherlock Holmes, Superman, and the Lone Ranger." <br /><br />I'd definitely classify him as a super hero of the Old West. Thanks for a fascinating post, Phil. thomasrizzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00762315714546553945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-46133587164165366472013-07-05T09:51:04.662-05:002013-07-05T09:51:04.662-05:00Great blog. We just released our second historical...Great blog. We just released our second historical fiction western, "Haunted Falls". It's the sequel to "The Nations". The protagonist in both novels is Bass Reeves. A true American hero.Ken Farmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16742339789828970027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-42311091080020989662013-07-05T09:22:17.405-05:002013-07-05T09:22:17.405-05:00Thanks for giving us the story of the "real&q...Thanks for giving us the story of the "real" Lone Ranger. Great story, again demonstrating that truth is often stranger than fiction.Faye Adamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-65055577918189459682013-07-05T05:53:39.998-05:002013-07-05T05:53:39.998-05:00Interesting. Thanks.
Interesting. Thanks.<br />Frank Roderusnoreply@blogger.com