tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post8963243480410276684..comments2024-03-28T15:10:11.645-05:00Comments on Western Fictioneers: Saturday Matinee: The Outlaw Josey WalesWestern Fictioneershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01683314579075461026noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-35639967130571763792014-09-15T16:34:41.312-05:002014-09-15T16:34:41.312-05:00I am a fan of this movie, the civil war and Native...I am a fan of this movie, the civil war and Native Americans, which is why I want to let ya'll know about America's TRUE Robin Hood - a Blue-eyed Indian Outlaw and Champion of the poor - that took on the KKK after the Civil War in N.C. and what a great story it is! Checkout THE LEGEND OF HENRY BERRY LOWRIE, by Warren R. Reichel - now on Kindle and Amazon.com.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-89832439010147304722013-08-02T20:19:57.799-05:002013-08-02T20:19:57.799-05:00Westerns will never make a sustained comeback, but...Westerns will never make a sustained comeback, but I do recommend this summer's "The Lone Ranger," which offers a treatment of Native Americans and Manifest Destiny somewhat similar to that of "The Outlaw Josey Wales." <br /><br />So if you haven't done so already, rush out to view "The Lone Ranger" while you still can. Indeed, I've viewed it twice and I'm planning on a third screening. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-31687348854321743672013-08-02T19:49:54.395-05:002013-08-02T19:49:54.395-05:00You watch "Josey Wales" once a month? My...You watch "Josey Wales" once a month? My goodness, Matthew! But if a film is deserving of that kind of constant viewing, it might as well be "Josey Wales." <br /><br />I probably viewed the film about a half-dozen times (four times that I remember for sure) over the span of about a year and a half from the spring of 1997 to the fall of 1998, when I was sixteen-to-eighteen, ending high school and starting college. "Josey Wales" constituted the first Western and the first Clint Eastwood film (of any kind) that I ever viewed. <br /><br />Since then, I've seen it twice more, but not in the last eleven years and only once in the last thirteen years. I look forward to viewing "Wales" in its entirety again, though; the film's coda is perhaps the most moving and brilliantly orchestrated that I've ever seen. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-55991327044991681442013-08-02T19:42:30.671-05:002013-08-02T19:42:30.671-05:00'In The Outlaw Josey Wales, the Native America...'In The Outlaw Josey Wales, the Native American characters are depicted with more honor than some of their white counterparts such as Captain "Redlegs" Terrill and the Senator, something unheard of in Hollywood until that point.'<br /><br />The concept wasn't unheard of; there had been a few Westerns that offered a rightfully 'revisionist' treatment of Native Americans by that point, most notably director Arthur Penn's "Little Big Man" from 1970, starring Dustin Hoffman and featuring Chief Dan George, whom Eastwood would also cast in the leading Native American role for "The Outlaw Josey Wales." <br /><br />So "Josey Wales" wasn't the first of its kind in that regard, but it certainly helped to further a nuanced portrayal of Native Americans, treating them as human beings with a full range of emotions, characteristics, and legitimate perspectives, rather than as wolf-like savages.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-46367601675015251022013-02-27T13:47:24.674-06:002013-02-27T13:47:24.674-06:00Sure, Jacquie. Thank you for commenting. I watch J...Sure, Jacquie. Thank you for commenting. I watch Josey Wales at least once a month. I hope they make a comeback as well.Matthew Pizzolatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11205069881890739031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-52200626463602714692013-02-25T17:39:50.833-06:002013-02-25T17:39:50.833-06:00Great movie--thanks, Matt. I'll have to watch...Great movie--thanks, Matt. I'll have to watch it again. And again...and again. :) I truly hope westerns come back as a viable movie genre.Jacquie Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361793932364487636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-172898443334730202013-02-25T14:29:28.968-06:002013-02-25T14:29:28.968-06:00Congratulations, Kristy!
CherylCongratulations, Kristy! <br />CherylCheryl Piersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18116526340220274282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-78556034184835788522013-02-25T14:12:46.394-06:002013-02-25T14:12:46.394-06:00The winner of the drawing for a free Kindle copy o...The winner of the drawing for a free Kindle copy of Outlaw is Kristy McCaffrey. Congratulations and I hope you enjoy it. Matthew Pizzolatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11205069881890739031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-84116591111140613652013-02-24T21:38:24.202-06:002013-02-24T21:38:24.202-06:00Thank you for commenting, Kristy. I thought Bad Gi...Thank you for commenting, Kristy. I thought Bad Girls was worth watching. I particularly liked Drew Barrymore's character.<br /><br />I liked The Missing as well, but it's hard to see Tommy Lee Jones in a Western and not think of Lonesome Dove. Matthew Pizzolatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11205069881890739031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-85402777549024984552013-02-24T21:33:15.218-06:002013-02-24T21:33:15.218-06:00I'm including Kristy in the drawing because sh...I'm including Kristy in the drawing because she left a comment that didn't show up on the blog for some reason, so I'm copy and pasting the email notification that I got here:<br /><br />Kristy McCaffrey has left a new comment on the post "Saturday Matinee: The Outlaw Josey Wales": <br /><br />"The Missing" with Cate Blanchett and Tommy Lee Jones was very good. And now I'll show my romance writer leanings--I also really liked "Bad Girls" with Madeleine Stowe. <br /><br />Would love a copy of your novella.<br /><br />Cheers!<br /><br />kristymccaffrey at juno dot com <br /><br />Posted by Kristy McCaffrey to Western Fictioneers at February 23, 2013 at 2:35 PMMatthew Pizzolatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11205069881890739031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-15564354117197914562013-02-24T09:05:53.579-06:002013-02-24T09:05:53.579-06:00The Wild Bunch is another great one, Ron. As a mat...The Wild Bunch is another great one, Ron. As a matter of fact, I think I'm going to watch it again soon.<br /><br />Paty, there are numerous great Westerns. I liked the new version of True Grit also.<br /><br />Another great one, Thom. Thanks for commenting. Matthew Pizzolatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11205069881890739031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-22380865717735507782013-02-24T04:58:42.387-06:002013-02-24T04:58:42.387-06:00Ride The High Country -- None Better.
Scott and Mc...Ride The High Country -- None Better.<br />Scott and McCrea, who could ask for more.Thomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01581648213804859553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-33366521219368043152013-02-23T21:05:02.068-06:002013-02-23T21:05:02.068-06:00I agree there are many great western movies. I'...I agree there are many great western movies. I'm not sure which is my favorite...Maybe the new version of True Grit mostly because it's the most recent western I've watched.<br /><br />It's pretty obvious the movies I would like portray the Native Americans as humans and not savages. Great post! Paty Jagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03257614436422105729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-85440427597643231422013-02-23T19:46:08.499-06:002013-02-23T19:46:08.499-06:00Josey Wales is also high on my list. I saw it whil...Josey Wales is also high on my list. I saw it while returning from a year abroad and it felt like a perfect welcome-home to me. There is a conciliatory tone at the end of it that said something also about the healing of the country after the divisions caused by the war in Vietnam.<br /><br />I don't know that I have a favorite, Matt. I don't think anyone has mentioned THE WILD BUNCH yet. If you asked me what western I'd like to see again right now, I'd pick that one. [I also already have my copy of OUTLAW.]Ron Scheerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15357501069513854664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-69179518718319743832013-02-23T19:24:55.399-06:002013-02-23T19:24:55.399-06:00Maverick-cards guns whats not to love!Maverick-cards guns whats not to love!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-235839756076231772013-02-23T19:05:26.726-06:002013-02-23T19:05:26.726-06:00Thanks, Keith. I like the Sergio Leone movies as w...Thanks, Keith. I like the Sergio Leone movies as well and I agree that Lee Van Cleef was great in the villain role. <br /><br />The Magnificent Seven is another great one, Renaissance. Thank you for the kind words regarding Outlaw.<br /><br />I agree, Cheryl. There's no such thing as a bad Western. Oh, I always endeavor to persevere. It's my motto.<br /><br />Thanks, Marc. The Outlaw Josey Wales probably has the best collection of one liners in any one film.<br /><br />Thank you, Tom. Those are some great movies you've listed. <br /><br />Matthew Pizzolatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11205069881890739031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-84887090457789238682013-02-23T17:58:22.112-06:002013-02-23T17:58:22.112-06:00Great post, Matthew. As far as favorites, my votes...Great post, Matthew. As far as favorites, my votes go to "3:10 to Yuma" --the 1957 film. The updated one with Russell Crowe was a little too violent for my tastes. I thought Van Heflin and Glenn Ford combined for a psychologically compelling story based on each one's version of honor instead of relying so much on bullet-riddled bodies. I also liked "Last Train From Gun Hill," with Marshal Kirk Douglas committed to bring the son of his friend (Anthony Quinn) to justice for raping and killing his wife.thomasrizzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00762315714546553945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-85449780092526019502013-02-23T14:43:18.580-06:002013-02-23T14:43:18.580-06:00"Endeavor to persevere..." My favorite."Endeavor to persevere..." My favorite.<br />Cheryl Piersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18116526340220274282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-51430917423248038152013-02-23T14:35:19.055-06:002013-02-23T14:35:19.055-06:00The Outlaw Josey Wales ties with True Grit as bein...The Outlaw Josey Wales ties with True Grit as being the most quoted among fellow Deputy US Marshals of my generation.<br />Before nearly every search or arrest warrant I went on over the last few decades, someone (mostly me) would invariably whisper: "If anyone gets hit, sing out. Slap hot iron to it. Best way to stop the blood." <br /><br />So, so many good one liners:<br /><br />"She thinks I'm some kind of Cherokee Chief..." <br />"I'm gonna whomp you with a knotted plow line.." <br />"It's not for eatin'. It's just for lookin' through..." <br />"I never surrendered, but they took my horse and made him surrender...."<br />"You can't serve papers on a rat, baby sister..." oh, wait, that's True Grit.<br /><br />What a thing as a writer, to string together those magic words that enter popular culture to be quoted for generations... Like: "Dyin' and much of a livin', boy." <br /><br />Thanks for the post. Now I can't get all those one liners out of my head. <br /><br /><br />Marc Cameronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14652887133889558701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-39087867903477781722013-02-23T14:29:19.792-06:002013-02-23T14:29:19.792-06:00Yep, it's hard to pick just one, isn't it?...Yep, it's hard to pick just one, isn't it? My husband's fave is this one, Matt, and he can quote the lines Josey (and others!) say before they do. LOL <br /><br />I have two favorites--The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance and High Plains Drifter. But the others are all "up there" too--there's really not a "bad western", is there? LOL<br /><br />I've got Outlaw too, so don't enter me in the drawing.<br /><br />CherylCheryl Piersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18116526340220274282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-6053625092820820812013-02-23T12:32:52.253-06:002013-02-23T12:32:52.253-06:00My favorite is "Magnificent Seven", but ...My favorite is "Magnificent Seven", but that may be due to my love of "The Seven Samurai". I have also been a follower of Helen Hunt Jackson and her work on Native American rights and the man who inspired her, Chief Standing Bear of the Ponca Tribe. Still Outlaw Josey Wales is up there. <br /><br />Additionally "Outlaw" is a great read. Enjoyed it.<br />Renaissance Womenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09045401344374224512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-75891352943571611372013-02-23T11:30:48.283-06:002013-02-23T11:30:48.283-06:00Great post, Matt. As you say, to pick one film is ...Great post, Matt. As you say, to pick one film is a difficult task. I agree with Rick, that The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is one of the top ones. But I also love so many of the John Wayne movies, and so many of Clint Eastwood's. I know that purists will disagree, but I also like the Sergio Leone movies, having walked through a lot of the Almeria territory in Southern Spain. While there we stayed at a ranch-turned-hotel where Lee Van Cleef used to stay. I think he played great villains.Keith Souterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15206349930107528691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-77404203061949726042013-02-23T10:37:26.213-06:002013-02-23T10:37:26.213-06:00Rick, Liberty Valance is a great movie.
Meg, I l...Rick, Liberty Valance is a great movie. <br /><br />Meg, I like all of Clint's Westerns.<br /><br />Lisa, it is a very difficult question to answer. There's no such thing as a bad John Wayne movie. The Searchers and El Dorado are favorites of mine. <br /><br />Evan, when I write it's in the tradition of Josey Wales as far as depicting other cultures. <br /><br />Thanks for commenting, Randy and thank you for the support. Matthew Pizzolatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11205069881890739031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-53039612585586461542013-02-23T10:20:30.659-06:002013-02-23T10:20:30.659-06:00I've got so many, it would be hard to pin one ...I've got so many, it would be hard to pin one down. As you say, it may be the last one you saw at any given time. Josey Wales rates high under any circumstances.<br /><br />Just wanted to comment. Don't worry about me. I've already bought a copy of OUTLAW>Randy Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16627907086811387527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1409887812566625284.post-48718829370134020332013-02-23T09:30:32.901-06:002013-02-23T09:30:32.901-06:00How does the changing cultural depictions of nativ...How does the changing cultural depictions of native peoples and the west effect your interest in a movie. For in stance, The Searchers is a neat movie in a lot of ways, but it also is horribly racist, particularly with our current understanding of cultural sensitivity. When you write, do you use a more modern understanding of native peoples, or do you use the more archaic (and I don't mean that in a slanderous way, just old) depiction of them as seen in the golden age of westerns?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com